I think our basic difference is that I don’t take Voll at face value and I don’t think Buffy does either.
Oh, neither do I - that's why I said that Buffy doesn't know who her enemy really is. She's fighting humans, she's ((convinced that she's) going to be) fighting those who typically represent humanity in times of conflict, but we don't yet know whom they represent or exactly how they intend to meet their goal, and Buffy knows even less (as far as we know).
his somewhat misogynist fears about women being at the mercy of their demonic natures
He specifically denied this, didn't he?
I don’t see this issue as showing Buffy to be dead set against listening to other people.
She quips about killing humans and jokes it off. She refuses to listen to any explanations about Faith. She - as you pointed out - vents her own issues with what she's doing on Gigi and then Faith. She refuses to talk to Giles when he doesn't trust her. She lies right in Willow's face, then tries to argue that it's no big. When asked what happened, she waves it off with "demons playing games." She and Willow got there together, Willow tells her she's just playing into Voll's hands, and they leave as far apart as possible.
I'm sure Buffy knows that they have a point or she wouldn't react so strongly, but... it wouldn't be the first time Buffy heard what others said and then did what she thought was best anyway. And so far, I have to say I see more signs of her pulling isolationist slayer crap than taking in opposing viewpoints.
My main point with the Roslin comparison was that’s it’s perfectly possible to tell a well-rounded, complex and compelling story about a powerful woman responding to extreme circumstances without making her all saint or all sinner.
Agreed, and it's a good point. Though that's hardly new to the Buffyverse either.
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Oh, neither do I - that's why I said that Buffy doesn't know who her enemy really is. She's fighting humans, she's ((convinced that she's) going to be) fighting those who typically represent humanity in times of conflict, but we don't yet know whom they represent or exactly how they intend to meet their goal, and Buffy knows even less (as far as we know).
his somewhat misogynist fears about women being at the mercy of their demonic natures
He specifically denied this, didn't he?
I don’t see this issue as showing Buffy to be dead set against listening to other people.
She quips about killing humans and jokes it off. She refuses to listen to any explanations about Faith. She - as you pointed out - vents her own issues with what she's doing on Gigi and then Faith. She refuses to talk to Giles when he doesn't trust her. She lies right in Willow's face, then tries to argue that it's no big. When asked what happened, she waves it off with "demons playing games." She and Willow got there together, Willow tells her she's just playing into Voll's hands, and they leave as far apart as possible.
I'm sure Buffy knows that they have a point or she wouldn't react so strongly, but... it wouldn't be the first time Buffy heard what others said and then did what she thought was best anyway. And so far, I have to say I see more signs of her pulling isolationist slayer crap than taking in opposing viewpoints.
My main point with the Roslin comparison was that’s it’s perfectly possible to tell a well-rounded, complex and compelling story about a powerful woman responding to extreme circumstances without making her all saint or all sinner.
Agreed, and it's a good point. Though that's hardly new to the Buffyverse either.