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hazelk ([personal profile] hazelk) wrote2009-01-03 12:37 pm
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On fanfic

Some thoughts about fic in response to a now friendslocked discussion of the relative merits of Buffy S8 and Buffy fanfic.

I used to read a lot of fic. There’s the usual 90% of everything is crap factor (and sometimes crap is exactly what you’re looking for) but I’ve certainly read fic that was more literary than S8. More poetic, more stylish, more funny and more disturbing (in both good and bad senses of the word). Having said that I think if I had to pinpoint a difference between all of those fics and S8 it would be is that S8 doesn’t feel safe. This is of course entirely subjective but I think I can justify it in a number of ways some of which apply specifically to Buffy fanfic (and me as a reader) and some to fanfic in general.

The specific reasons have to do not with literary qualities but with medium and community. BtVS was TV series and TV is a visual medium. Not that the dialogue wasn’t distinctive and important but it wasn’t (for me) the main thing. For evidence I’d offer the success of episodes like Hush and The Body which do without the trademark dialogue but also the experience of watching large swathes of the series with the sound off for vidding purposes and having it still feel like Buffy in a way that reading the scripts doesn’t. What reading the scripts does feel like is reading Buffy fandom, which on the interwebs is very much a text based medium. Fanfic is not only text based but a direct product of fandom and fandom conversations. I think it’s that and being myself a participant in those conversations that can makes fic appealing but also gives it a safety factor. I know these writers, not personally perhaps but what their positions are on fannish issues and where they fit within the various subcultures in a much more detailed and insider way than I know Joss Whedon or any of the comic writers. Even with a new writer it rarely takes long to figure out their fannish influences, where they’re coming from, where they fit. Plots may twist but although the specifics of the twist are not predictable the point of it almost always feels familiar, the snark is never a boondog or so you convince yourself to maintain social order. Published writers and their original stories can be predictable too but I don’t know them, they don’t know me and that outsider quality changes the nature of the contract between us.

The general reason is that, for me as a reader, fic’s relationship to its source text almost automatically acts as a filter between it and world. The most terrible things can happen or be touched in fanfic but because there’s always the source text to refer them to they don’t feel as real. I don’t get that sense of distance between the same characters and similar events in the original stories. Where there’s no fictional precedent it feels more as if you’re being exposed directly to the author’s naked brain or less grossly their experience of the world. Not always a good thing or even an interesting thing but naked brains are never entirely safe.

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps this is unfair of me to say, but well...I care more about Xander's reaction and how this affects him than what happened to Renee. I don't know if it's because she was a lesser-developed character stuck in the comic medium (doesn't seem as real as if she were a character brought over from the TV show nor was she around long to become very three-dimensional) or if it's because Xander is one of the main characters. But ultimately, Xander is my main focus for Renee's role in the plot. It's like how Marti Noxon would say the writers would be pitching a plot story and they'd keep this question in mind: 'how does this make Buffy feel?' That was always the focus for the show - how everything affects Buffy. And in this case, I feel the focus is how does Renee's death affect Xander.

Renee's opening scene with her internal monologue was beautiful and near perfect. Perhaps there is a strong argument to be made for the brevity of the latter moment between Xander and Buffy, that brevity doing justice to Renee's death. But ultimately, I would have liked to be keyed in to Xander's grieving process like we saw with Buffy after losing Angel or her mother, with Willow after losing Oz and Tara, etc. Maybe if it didn't happen in #15, that would have given it enough space to not detract from Renee's death scene. But the momentum of the comics means there was no opportunity to pause and see Xander's intense emotions. By #16 when we check back in with him, he's telling Buffy and Willow that he's dealing and doesn't want to dwell on it and urging Willow to fill him in on all the kinky details. Moving on full speed ahead.

[identity profile] aycheb.livejournal.com 2009-01-04 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Not unfair but not entirely relevant, at least to the woman in a refrigerator point, which this year has become something of a sore point (and I've only just started reading comics). It's just that I don't think you can read these things entirely in a vacuum.

I'm sure that when Green Lantern found his girlfriend, or the carved up pieces of her, in his refrigerator fans of that book would have felt more invested in his character development than her death and they would have had a point. It's when you begin to realise that her fate is not the tragic exception but the overwhelming rule for female or minority characters in comics (and other media).

I'm actually quite the faint-hearted feminist when it come to reacting against these things, the only one I'm really prepared to go against the barricades for is the full Green Lantern where the woman is brutally killed to spur the hero into vengeance (and make a man of him). With the extremely nasty subtext that the woman's degrading death was actually a good and even necessary thing. I was very, very glad Xander didn't get to go Charles Bronson on Toru the way some fans seemed to hope. We did also get a longer scene of his reaction to her death with the scattering of her ashes so overall I found the story very satisfying but I have a weakness for emotional restraint. Maybe it's a British thing. More tea?