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hazelk ([personal profile] hazelk) wrote2007-07-01 02:28 pm
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Dr. Who -The Last of the Time Lords



So the continuity porn was triple X-rated from the call back to the ‘power of words’ Shakespeare episode all the way to Captain Jack as the face of Boe. John Simms remained delirious and Martha done good but…

I’m not made of stone. I read Peter Pan so long ago I can’t remember whether I wanted to clap or hiss in the original Tinkerbell scene but still weep copiously every time the crowd begins to applaud at the end of Strictly Ballroom. It doesn’t always work though. Buffy getting the pink umbrella of public affirmation in The Prom errs just on the side of eye rolling, the plain people of Noo Yawk throwing rocks at the Green Goblin in Spiderman errs a little further. The whole world converting to Doctoranity runs screaming off into the void of “who died and made you Jesus?” And on behalf of us he forgave his evil insane misogynist ex-boyfriend for pulling a Davros on the last humans, decimating their predecessors once more with accuracy and covering the world with little pointy penis substitutes. As a mere human person I’d like to thank The Master for winning that round even if his victory was later undercut for the sake of a Flash Gordon shoutout.

Rant over, the hell, it was a big ambitious mess of a finale but like the Toclafane still able to have fun and God only knows what the kids made of it.
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[personal profile] elisi 2007-07-01 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
So the continuity porn was triple X-rated
Wasn't it just? Being a continuity whore I *loved* it! Oh and thanks for pointing out the link to the Shakespeare ep. That hadn't occurred to me.

The whole world converting to Doctoranity runs screaming off into the void of “who died and made you Jesus?”
Heh. I saw that the writer was RTD and thought to myself 'OK, it is very, very likely that at some point the plot with turn competely ridiculous and over the top. And it did. So I laughed and brushed it off... RTD is like Joss in that respect, but moreso!

And on behalf of us he forgave his evil insane misogynist ex-boyfriend
I LOVED that. Did you read my post the other day? The Doctor's God-complex is *wonderful* and greatly contributes to why I now love this show so much more than I used to. And of course it is reflected in The Master to wonderful effect. There will be more meta at some point...

(This stuff pushes all of *my* buttons!)

[identity profile] aycheb.livejournal.com 2007-07-01 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't not love the structural integrity of the season, my atheist self just has trouble with what it might be trying to say. It's a thing. Doctor having a *God* complex good, show having a *Doctor* complex, complicated. "Please don't forgive me," as Buffy once said.
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[personal profile] elisi 2007-07-01 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
"Please don't forgive me," as Buffy once said.
And so said The Master, if for very different reasons... Yes The Doctor was being *benevolent*, but he also knew that it was the worst possible thing he could say. Because he put himself in a *higher* position than The Master, made himself the one responsible for his fate. He had won. It was in his power to give or with-hold punishment. The Master letting himself die was just brilliant - he did the one thing The Doctor couldn't forgive...

(Complicated GOOD!)

[identity profile] laurashapiro.livejournal.com 2007-07-01 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the "I believe in fairies" thing was totally over the top. I had a really hard time with it.

That said, I felt like even though the plot was basically a massive failure, there was emotional truth in the episode which seemed to make up for it. Or possibly I'm just too much of a fangirl to think clearly.

[identity profile] aycheb.livejournal.com 2007-07-01 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a very conflicted relationship with new Who, nostalgia battling with all kinds of other factors and mostly it works itself out in cheap snark :-)

This arc in particular, it does have the whole words/faith versus weapons that selenaK pointed out in her review but faith in what? Who is old enough that the Doctor began with left over Empire issues, why does faith have to be channeled through the representative of a more 'advanced' civilisation? Why does Martha have to love him so unconditionally almost from the day they met? Against which I genuinely like/love all the characters, Ten, Nine, Rose, Jackie, Martha, Martha's mum, the Master, Sally, Mickey, even Lucy Saxon is intriguing.

[identity profile] laurashapiro.livejournal.com 2007-07-02 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, must go read selenak's review.

I am increasingly disgruntled about the race and sex issues in the show, and it makes me sad. I used to have such squee for it, and now I just...don't.

[identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com 2007-07-01 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure that dialogue implied the future-humans turned themselves into the Toclafane before the Master showed up.

[identity profile] aycheb.livejournal.com 2007-07-01 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
True but that wouldn't have scanned. Also if the Daleks were the inevitable result of accelerated Kaled (Lamarckian) evolution that Davros set in motion and hoped to rule over you could say the Master was merely more successful with the human version of the same process (set up without his knowing by Professor Yaffle).