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I re-watched Children of Men this weekend, something I’d actually been putting off doing for a while. I loved this movie the first time around but now I have a vid idea for it I was afraid of that getting in the way. Instead of just appreciating it, with half my mind I’d be hanging over it like a vulture looking for bits and chunks of usable footage. Fortunately, it didn’t work out quite like that, I got caught up in the story just like the first time only more observantly (I think I was also worried that it wasn’t going to stand up to my initial impressions but if anything it was better, thematically and visually it’s an incredibly tight piece and the way it uses music is just inspired).

It did make me think about fannishness and how it affects the experience of art. In many ways non-fannish things are simpler, the relationship between you and the creator of the art is quite straightforward. It’s very easy to become immersed in the experience because it’s impersonal, a chance encounter between two strangers, no strings attached. With fannish things the relationship between creator and fans is more like family, a family of adolescent children struggling to become adults in their own right. It’s dynamic, very personal and inherently unstable. Some fandoms, SGA seems to one, have come to an amicable agreement with their source texts, the fans have grown up and left to start their own homes. They call in every so often but are more likely to argue amongst themselves. Others, X-files perhaps, have had such a cataclysmic falling out with their parents that they’re are no longer even on speaking terms. And then there’s BtVS fandom, a large unruly clan famous for constant internecine wars that had just begun to settle down when the Jossfather decided to hold a big drunken re-union in comic form. Fist-fights are already threatening to break out on the lawn.

Date: 2007-04-16 05:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ann1962
I would love to see a vid about Children of Men!

Whedonverse: like Thanksgiving all the time ;-)

I was thinking about this just the other day when I speculated about Whedon addressing issues in S8.2. How it is like a family, and how we are forgiving of the father and what he might do and say, and other family members too. Well me anyway, I am a middle child, which accounts for a lot!

Date: 2007-04-16 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lusciousxander.livejournal.com
I guess I'm one of Joss' accepting kids. I mean, sure, he annoyed me a few times with his lousy decisions but I don't hate him or feel betrayed by him. I'm glad he's back with the comics, and I've welcomed his crazy drunken ass with open arms. I have faith in my father, and that faith makes me have less headaches.

Date: 2007-04-16 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] obsessive24.livejournal.com
Ha! Such a fabulous observation.

I always enjoy your posts, even though I don't always get around to commenting because I feel like I have nothing new/interesting to contribute. I'm always in love with the way you express your ideas, though. (And the ideas themselves, naturally.)

Date: 2007-04-16 09:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yourlibrarian
LOL! I love your family metaphor. I guess an interesting thing to examine would be what constitutes a "mature" fandom. I would guess most are actually relatively short, 5-10 years (though the number that remain on life support seems infinite), perhaps because the canon source is rarely longer than 5 years. Which means, I suppose that "adulthood" would be considered anything after the canon source closed?

Date: 2007-04-17 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bop-radar.livejournal.com
*giggles* Cute metaphor! I'm still fascinated by the way that nearly all fandoms come to have a love/hate (with the emphasis on HATE) relationship with their creators. Viewing it as a parent-child dynamic is quite useful to me... *muses* Though I fear that in my fandoms I'm too often the boring person pointing out that 'dad' may have something to offer us after all (*yawn*).

Date: 2007-04-27 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ibmiller.livejournal.com
Hey, I'm underage! No drunkness here. (Hey, can someone with ID sneak into the bar and get me some of that?)... ;-)

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